CCAC Meeting Agenda 18 February 2015

CROZET COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL (CCAC) Meeting

The Crozet Library Community Room Crozet (2020 Library Avenue)
Wednesday, February 18, 2015 from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. 
 

Click here for PDF (printable) version of the agenda.

Agenda

1. Agenda Review. (Meg Holden – CCAC chair)

2. Approval of Minutes (Click here for draft January 21, 2015 meeting minutes.) not yet provided.

3. Project Updates/Information:

  • Preliminary discussion about name changes for some streets in Crozet –Andy Slack GIS Specialist II
  • Presentation regarding plans for use of old Moose Lodge – Dr. Schoeb
  • Presentation about request for Special Use Permit to allow for continued polo matches at King Family Vineyards – David King
  • Follow up from January meeting regarding Economic Development – Susan Stimart
  • Discussion about Milestone Partners hosting a series of public meetings regarding key points of development on the former Barnes property – Frank Stoner  (CLICK here for Milestone Partner's response to the CCAC's July 16 resolution concerning Barnes Lumber)
  • Review of “ombudsman” roles and discussion about which areas members would like to focus on
  • Elections 

4. Other items not on the agenda.

5. Announcements.

  • Blue Ridge Patrol District will be hosting a Coffee with a Cop event at the Mud House in Crozet on February 26, 2015
  • Reminder that the next CCAC meeting will be held at The Meadows on Wednesday March 18, 2015.

6.. Future Agenda Items.

CCAC Meeting Agenda January 21, 2015

CROZET COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL (CCAC) Meeting

The Crozet Library Community Room Crozet (2020 Library Avenue)
Wednesday, January 21, 2015 from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. 
 

Click here for PDF (printable) version of the agenda.

Agenda

1. Agenda Review. (Meg Holden – CCAC chair)

2. Approval of Minutes (Click here for draft November 19, 2014 meeting minutes.Click here for draft December 17, 2014 meeting minutes not yet provided.

3. Project Updates/Information:

4. Prepare to nominate/elect officers, discuss idea of a nominating committee.  Try to elect in February.

5. Discuss new term application renewal process and how it relates to election – Emily Kilroy, Albemarle County staff.

6. Decide on ombudsman for a speciality area or begin the dialogue.  Come up with a list of areas.

7. Discuss possibility of having another meeting and bringing together a larger community group to work on downtown development, perhaps "charette style".

8. If time permits continue to brainstorm on development issues and
ideas and hear more from Kim Connolly and Dave Stoner on economic development for Crozet.

9. Other items not on the agenda.

10. Announcements.

11.. Future Agenda Items.

Barnes Lumber property re-development information

Update: January 2015: Click here for document from Dave Stoner regarding economic development in Crozet and Click here for email that accompanied document from Dave Stoner.

Update: December 2014:   Click here for Milestone Partner's response to the CCAC's July 16 resolution concerning Barnes Lumber

Update: August 5, 2014: The Albemarle County Planning Commission granted developer Frank Stone's application to rezone the Barnes Lumber property in downtown Crozet and "indefinite deferral".  This is the second time this property's re-zoning has been granted an indefinite deferral.  Further information about this deferral at the Crozet Gazette and Cville Tomorrow websites.

CCAC Resolution on July 16, 2014 listing Issues and Position on Barnes Lumber property Re-development –  Click here for PDF

In fall 2013, Frank Stoner, of Milestone Partners, submitted a re-development proposal to Albemarle County for review.  Milestone has a website devoted to this project, available at http://www.barnes-lumber.com

The Crozet Community Advisory Council heard Mr. Stoner's proposal at their December 2013 meeting.  The Crozet Gazette covered it and published its story about that meeting (Click here to read it.)  The minutes of the December 2013 CCAC meeting are also available here.

The County staff reviewed  his proposals and on February 26, 2014 issued a 15 page comment, the PDF of this is available here. An important question to consider is how well this plan adheres to the Crozet Master Plan.

In mid-May 2014, Mr. Stoner,  emailed the following update to Ann Mallek, our White Hall district supervisor to share with the Crozet Community Advisory Council (CCAC) as he prepares to go before the Planning Commission on Tuesady, June 17, 2014 at 6:00 PM.   As of this posting, the Planning Commission agenda for June 17, 2014 has not been posted, however you can get it when it is by clicking here.

Video of the proposal overlayed on current site: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq4oQGp3D1M

For the sake of comparisonhere are two drawings from the last proposal for re-developing the Barnes Lumber property  that was submitted by the Piedmont Development Group back in August 2010 and February 2011. The current proposal is actually a continuation of that request for re-zoning (ZMA2010-0018). 

Here's what the Piedmont Development Group's proposal for Barnes Property looked like in February 2011.

Piedmont Development Group February 2011 proposoal for Barnes Lumber Property in Crozet

Below (click on Continue reading) is Frank Stoner's May 16, 2014 email, followed by links to the documents he references in the email below.

 

From: Frank Stoner <fstoner@milestonepartners.co>
Date: May 16, 2014 at 11:20:04 AM EDT
To: Ann.mallek <ann.mallek@gmail.com>
Subject: CCAC – County Submittals

Anne,[sic]
Attached are the latest responses we submitted to the County.  I’ve also included the authorization letter from CSX regarding their property.  I had a meeting with staff shortly before our resubmittal, suggesting that we try to get as many issues off the table as possible, face to face, instead of through extended submittal/response cycles that eat up a bunch of time and often don’t lead to real solutions.  As you know, time is of the essence for us as the September 30 drop dead date looms with the Bank.

I think we made real progress on the following items:
Stormwater – Glenn asked for and we delivered a narrative and a chart showing the types of storm water measures that we plan to use within the development blocks.  
Transportation – Troy suggested, and we have included, a mini-roundabout at the end of the square.  He was pushing for removal of the intersection until I suggested that removing it would only drive more traffic to the square and that’s what he says he doesn’t want.  The traffic study we submitted seems to indicate that signals may eventually be needed at Jarmans Gap, Library Avenue and the Square.  Vdot may only permit 2 of these intersections to be signalized but they don’t know which 2.  We have not proffered funds toward another light because I’d rather spend that money on the plaza/park or a connection under the railroad.  My sense is that VDOT can come up with the money for one more signal but I know they are not going to fund anything in the Plaza or park.  I’d welcome your thoughts on this.
Open/Civic space – we’ve modified our application to provide some assurance that all the open space won’t end up in the stream buffer and around residential units. At least  ene third of the open/civic space will be located in blocks 1-5.  If we can get Carroll’s property, that percentage will increase further.
Affordable Housing – We’ve proffered to build 15% affordable housing on the entire rezoned site, not just the area subject to the SUP.  However, we think most of those units will be flats, apartments or condo’s and, as such, have phased the affordable such that full compliance is not required until some multifamily gets built.  Some may happen in blocks 6-7 and 8 but we’ve included blocks 5 and 6 just to be safe.
Phasing – We’ve clarified the phasing of the project.  There is both commercial and residential in phase 1.  Demand will drive the pace of commercial development.  I’ve been working closely with Susan and have met with a number of local businesses that might have an interest in relocating to Crozet.   I have 1 viable prospect now and I’m confident that, if we can get a little momentum, more will follow.  Residential is critical in the early phases because it provides the rooftops to support local retail and the demand is more predictable so it helps us secure the funding necessary to build the road.
The remaining issues can’t really be solved by staff and need to get to the Planning Commission and Board.  They are as follows:
Special Use Permit – We strongly believe that our SUP is in conformance with the goals and intent of the original Crozet Master Plan .  Our SUP provides a critical residential buffer area and a more logical transect from low density residential to downtown commercial. This transect existed in the original master plan from the consultants but was modified during the development of the DCD district.   It provides needed variety of housing options within walking distance to downtown and adaptability so that, as downtown grows over the next 20 years, ground floor residential can be easily converted to commercial if there is a need.
Cash Proffers – I don’t need to say much here.  We’re going to build a $2MM road. No other DCD zoned property has paid cash proffers.   We’re building 130,000 sf of commercial that must be affordable for downtown to work.  Etc. Etc.
I think it’s important for people to realize that this rezoning is not the end of process that will determine the fate of downtown.  It’s the very beginning.  This is just a land use decision, not a design or program for downtown.  The heavy lifting is ahead and we’ll need real engagement from the entire community to define the identity of downtown, improve access, determine how the public areas will be programmed, built and maintained, develop  and fund a long term parking plan, and recruit the kinds of businesses to Crozet that residents want and need.   I hope the focus of debate can soon shift so that we can begin to work more collaboratively on these issues because we can’t solve them without the full engagement of the community and the County.

Thanks again for all your support.  I’d welcome your thoughts and advise as we begin to prepare for the PC meeting next month.

Regards,
Frank

Albemarle County staff report on Barnes Lumber/Crozet Square redevelopment proposal.
To be presented at the Albemarle County Planning Commission meeting on Tuesday, June 17 at 6:00 PM.

 

Links to the May 16, 2014 email attachments:

  1. Barnes Lumber Resubmittal letter 2014May5
  2. Barnes Lumber ZMA Proffer Comparison 2014May5 vs March17
  3. Barnes Lumber ZMA Proffers submitted 2014May5
  4. Barnes Lumber Stormwater Management (SWM) Narrative
  5. Barnes Lumber Block Densities Sheet 2014May5
  6. Barnes Lumber Stormwater Management (SWM) Chart 2014May5
  7. Barnes Lumber 51640 (ZMA201000018) Engineering Staff Rev.6 2014May14
  8. Barnes Lumber Stormwater SWM Precedents 140502-BNL.pdf
  9. Barnes Lumber 51591 (ZMA201000018) 2014Apr16.pdf
  10. Barnes Lumber Conceptual Plan Rev 5514 (2014May5).pdf
  11. Barnes Lumber Conceptual (Bubble) Plan3 (2014March17).pdf

Barnes Lumber

 

To find out about any project or proposal submitted to Albemarle County for review and approval, you can visit Albemarle County's "CountyView" website.   For example, for the Barnes Lumber property proposal by Frank Stoner, to access the proposal and county staff's review and recommendations to date you would do the following

  1. Go to: http://countyviewweb.albemarle.org/
  2. Click on the box that says: “View Selected Planning Application”
  3. Make sure the “Search By:” box says: “Web Planning Application Number”.
  4. In the PL Application Application Number Is exactly: box type:   SP201400001   (or ZMA201000018)
  5. And click on the green “Go” button.
  6. Use the “Navigation” bar on right of the resulting screens to look at the documents submitted, reviewers comments and approvals, etc. For example, if you click on the “Reviews” box. and scroll down, you can click on each reviewer name, and scroll the webpage down to see what they wrote and download any document they included. 
  7. The staff reports, such as from Ms. Claudette Grant are their names name as a document download.
  8. And after you're done reviewing or downloading those documents, return to step 4 above and enter: ZMA201000018  Which is the Zoning Text admenment, as he has submittted requests under this as recently as April 16, 2014.

 

CCAC Meeting December 17, 2014

CROZET COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL (CCAC) Meeting

The Crozet Library Community Room Crozet (2020 Library Avenue)
Wednesday, December 17, 2014 from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. 
 

Click here for PDF (printable) version of the agenda.

Agenda

1. Agenda Review. (Meg Holden – CCAC chair)

2. Approval of Minutes (Click here for draft November 19, 2014 meeting minutes.)

3. Project Updates/Information:

  • Questions for Milestone Partners about current state of downtown development – Frank Stoner 
    CLICK here for Milestone Partner's response to the CCAC's July 16 resolution concerning Barnes Lumber
  • Update and questions about wind energy business – Rich Pleasants
  • Crozet Artisans need to secure a new location in Crozet – Kathleen 
Mistry
  • Downtown Zoning Form Presentation – Tom Loach
  • Clarification of Mission Statement – Bill Schrader  (Click here for CCAC Guidelines)
  • Information sharing about meeting with County staff regarding 
economic development and how CCAC can promote/ advocate for 
businesses, new and existing.
  • Discussion about various topics of focus that members would like to 
take on as an area of focus.
  • Dentist presenting to group about idea for the Moose Lodge.

4. Items not listed on the agenda 

5. Announcements.

6. Future Agenda Items.

CCAC Meeting November 19, 2014

CROZET COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL (CCAC) Meeting

The Crozet Library Community Room Crozet (2020 Library Avenue)
Wednesday, November 19, 2014 from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. 
NOTE the new day and location!

Agenda

1. Agenda Review. (Meg Holden – CCAC chair)

2. Approval of Minutes

3. Project Updates/Information:

  • Introduce Emily Kilroy and new CCAC members
  • Streetscape updates/issues and celebration, safe walks to school, Harris Teeter Crossing
  • Update on Barnes lumber closing – Frank Stoner
  • Discussion of CDC presentation and brainstorm development issues 
and ideas per email I sent earlier from Dave Stoner
  • Wind energy business update and overview – Rich Pleasants

4. Items not listed on the agenda 

5. Announcements.

6. Future Agenda Items.

 


Dave Stoner Letter
Email – November  2014

Meg –
As discussed, I wanted to suggest several agenda items for discussion at the next, or next several, CCAC meetings:
    1.    Crozet Vision – I think we should work to create a specific, written vision for what we want Crozet to become.  This could answer questions like what specific kinds of businesses do we want to grow, what are key aspects we want in any redevelopment, what DON'T we want or think is not realistic in any redevelopment, etc.  I know some of this is covered in the Master Plan, but much isn't.  I view the Master Plan as more rules or guidelines for development – not defining what we actually want that development to be.
    2.    Development Study – I think we should find the funds and scope out what I am calling a Development Study – to help determine whether that vision is realistic, or if not, what are the specific impediments to achieving it, what can be done to overcome them, and what do we need to do to implement that vision.  This might answer questions like:  How much commercial space is really needed?  What does the county need to do to attract the kinds of businesses we want (tax breaks, infrastructure funding, other incentives, etc)?  How do we do that and still be fair to/support existing businesses?  What are the economics of the overall Barnes redevelopment?  Given those economics, what kinds and numbers of businesses can we realistically attract?   What level of public $ support is needed to make it happen (to help answer questions like proffers and where should the roads, RR underpass, parking etc fit in terms of future County funding)?  What are the specific pros/cons of relaxing the first floor restriction on residential and/or allowing single family?  I think if we could find $25-75k (County funds, grants, or developers) there's lots of productive work a development consultant could do or help us with here.  The results of this might help justify further infrastructure funding from, or creation of incentives by the County, and bridge some of the gaps in thinking between Milestone and CCAC.
    3.    Economic Development Effort – Crozet could benefit from a more proactive economic development effort, vs. what we have now – which I am not sure what that is.  Things like:  actively recruiting businesses we want;  creating marketing materials for Crozet; working to win businesses vs them going to rte 250 or Old Trail or elsewhere;  pushing the County to create real incentives, etc.  Not a "we want any development approach" but one that seeks to implement some of the things identified in our Vision or by the Development Study.
    4.    Master Plan Update – I am thinking the Master Plan will be up for review next year, yes?  What changes if any are needed and how will that get done?
    5.    Implementation Plan – Work toward rolling all of the above together into a proactive implementation plan for creating what we have envisioned.  Again, I view the Master Plan as the template and guidelines.  This implementation plan would be more of a plan to guide our/the County's/the developers efforts, to make what we want to happen – actually happen.
    6.    Organization – This follows on to your efforts at considering a Community Development Corporation as a potential vehicle for our efforts.  Is having a private developer develop, and the County and CCAC react to that, the best way to make things happen here?  Is a CDC or other public-private partnerships a more effective means of achieving what we want?  If so, should the CCAC assume that role, or be responsible for managing that or another entity?
  
I know there's a lot here, and all of the above tends to being a bit more pro-active and involved approach than maybe the CCAC has taken in the past – I'm not sure.  Are CCAC members desiring/willing to tackle some of these and take this approach?  I also recognize the County and County staff's role in all of this…I am not suggesting CCAC goes it alone and doesn't use the County resources available.  Maybe instead just a way to holler a bit louder to get more of those resources devoted to us (or go find our own) since we are a designated growth area and a pretty special one at that.

I know Milestone wanted to give an update at our next meeting, and wasn't sure what you had in mind as a specific agenda.  But I would be happy to prepare further information as needed to lead a discussion on any/all of the above.  Let's touch base on this prior to our meeting in 2 weeks.

Cheers,
Dave
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
David A. Stoner
Principal
Stoner Power Consulting, LLC
6858 Rockfish Gap Turnpike
Greenwood, VA 22943
434-227-2105
davidastoner1@gmail.com

CCAC Meeting October 15, 2014 CANCELLED

The Crozet Community Advisory Council (CCAC) has cancelled its regularly scheduled monthly meeting tomorrow, Wednesday, October 15, 2014

The next CCAC meeting will be Wednesday November 19th at 7PM at the Crozet Library.

Special CCAC meeting October 2, 2014

Crozet Community Advisory Council (CCAC) special meeting on Thursday, October 2nd at 7PM at the Field School.

 

The CCAC is hosting a meeting with Nate Cunningham, who comes to share his knowledge of Community Development Corporations (CDC), tomorrow, Thursday night, October 2 at 7:00 PM at the Field School (1408 Crozet Avenue; across from Crozet Elementary)

 Developer Frank Stoner (Milestone Group; Barnes Lumber property development proposal) and Board of Supervisor representative Ann Mallek invited him to come speak to the CCAC and community in connection with ideas for developing the Barnes Lumber property, such as a public-private non-profit development corporation. 

Nate Cunningham is the director of real estate development for the East Liberty Development, Inc. in Pittsburgh, PA.   One article about their work is here: http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/print-edition/2011/09/09/developers-plan-project-east-liberty.html


CCAC Meeting September 17, 2014

CROZET COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL (CCAC) Meeting

The Crozet Library Community Room Crozet (2020 Library Avenue)
Wednesday, September 17, 2014 from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. 
NOTE the new day and location!

Agenda

1. Agenda Review. (Meg Holden – CCAC chair)

2. Approval of Minutes from previous meetings (June 16, July 2, July 17, and August 21)

3. Project Updates/Information:

  •  Streetscape updates/issues if there are any, safe walks to school, Harris Teeter Crossing (Trevor Henry, Albemarle County Director of Facilities Development).
  • Crozet Park events and plans – Kim Guenther, President
  • County staff to dicuss new proposed zoning text amendments for setbacks in development areas.
  • Brief update on Barnes Lumber Property and plans for learning about Community Development Corporation (CDC).

4. Items not listed on the agenda 

5. Announcements.

6. Future Agenda Items.

CCAC Meeting August 21, 2014

CROZET COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL (CCAC) Meeting

The Meadows Community Center, Crozet (5735 Meadows Dr.)
Thursday, August 19, 2014 from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. 
 

Agenda

1. Agenda Review. (Meg Holden – CCAC chair)

2. Approval of Minutes from previous meeting.   

3. Project Updates/Information:
     * Library updates –– Bill Schrader.
     * Meeting date and lcoation change.
     * Streetscape updates/issues if there are any – Will invite Trevor Henry.
     * Crozet Safety Corp update – Tom Loach
     * Harris Teeter Crossing and Crozet School Crossing
     * Brief update on Barnes Lumber Property – an indefinite deferral was granted with a 5-0 vote of the Planning Commission

4. Items not listed on the agenda 

5. Announcements.

6. Future Agenda Items.

CCAC Meeting – July 17, 2014

CROZET COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL (CCAC) Meeting

The Meadows Community Center, Crozet (5735 Meadows Dr.)
Thursday, July 17, 2014 from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. 
 

Agenda

1. Agenda Review. (Meg Holden – CCAC chair)

2. Approval of Minutes from previous meeting(s).   

3. Project Updates/Information:
     * Library updates –– Bill Schrader.
     * Moving the September meeting to a Wednesday night at the Crozet Library.
     * Streetscape updates/issues if there are any.
     * Crozet Train Station –– Susan Stimert, Albemarle County.
     * Crozet Independence Day Celebration report –– Mike Marshall
     * Discussion of Downtown development (Barnes Lumber Property next to Crozet Square) and current status of the project and objectives for downtown Crozet.

4. Items not listed on the agenda 

5. Announcements.

6. Future Agenda Items.